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	<title>Comments on: Out Of Touch: A True Story Of How MTV Treated One Independent Band</title>
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		<title>By: king D</title>
		<link>http://www.thetripwire.com/blog/2009/03/31/out-of-touch-a-true-story-of-how-mtv-treats-independent-bands/comment-page-1/#comment-3171</link>
		<dc:creator>king D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck MTV, always Fuck MTV. Indy Bands used to be the enemy of bullshit capitalist empty PROGRAMING! What is happening?!!! I hate when the system dumbs down the next wave of cool!! It dangles like a diamond in the hearts of those who could make a change but chase a manufactured dream of success that will never be reached unless your willing to sell an idea that will keep people spending and stupid. Go ahead children! &quot;They&quot; have been successful at COINTELPRO for years. Infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting youth groups power for real social change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck MTV, always Fuck MTV. Indy Bands used to be the enemy of bullshit capitalist empty PROGRAMING! What is happening?!!! I hate when the system dumbs down the next wave of cool!! It dangles like a diamond in the hearts of those who could make a change but chase a manufactured dream of success that will never be reached unless your willing to sell an idea that will keep people spending and stupid. Go ahead children! &#8220;They&#8221; have been successful at COINTELPRO for years. Infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting youth groups power for real social change.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Hersh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Hersh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) why submit to them in the first place? 2) why believe the air date? 3) why put out a press release about you music video playing on MTV 4) why spend $$$ on requested changes

you must have hired a company like cornerstone to work your record too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) why submit to them in the first place? 2) why believe the air date? 3) why put out a press release about you music video playing on MTV 4) why spend $$$ on requested changes</p>
<p>you must have hired a company like cornerstone to work your record too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Team Robespierre Fucked by MTV. Surprised? &#171; Microphone Memory Emotion</title>
		<link>http://www.thetripwire.com/blog/2009/03/31/out-of-touch-a-true-story-of-how-mtv-treats-independent-bands/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Team Robespierre Fucked by MTV. Surprised? &#171; Microphone Memory Emotion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is why you never get in bed with the enemy. The situation very rarely ends in your favor. But, I do understand the allure of fame, fortune, blahbedy blah. But here&#8217;s the thing: Team Robespierre is really great, but they in no way appeal to the MTV crowd. Not even the alternative MTV crowd. Even with lyrics like, &#8220;I&#8217;m not looking for a job. I just wanna be a heartthrob!&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is why you never get in bed with the enemy. The situation very rarely ends in your favor. But, I do understand the allure of fame, fortune, blahbedy blah. But here&#8217;s the thing: Team Robespierre is really great, but they in no way appeal to the MTV crowd. Not even the alternative MTV crowd. Even with lyrics like, &#8220;I&#8217;m not looking for a job. I just wanna be a heartthrob!&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Salvation Is A Pop Song</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvation Is A Pop Song</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, the people criticizing Team Robespierre need to shut the fuck up- TR is a band is hustling, making good music, throwing parties and having fun. They were excited about the great response to their video... there&#039;s nothing wrong with that. This was an unfortunate situation of a cool band being screwed over by MTV&#039;s corporate censored bullshit. Period. Thanks for coming forward with this story- instead of being lost in the abyss of &quot;cool bands that get fucked by the record industry&quot; this is now a tangible story that can inform everyone else to not get stars in their eyes and waste money on trying to cater to MTV&#039;s bullshit. Television is a dying beast- let&#039;s use a nail gun on that coffin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the people criticizing Team Robespierre need to shut the fuck up- TR is a band is hustling, making good music, throwing parties and having fun. They were excited about the great response to their video&#8230; there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. This was an unfortunate situation of a cool band being screwed over by MTV&#8217;s corporate censored bullshit. Period. Thanks for coming forward with this story- instead of being lost in the abyss of &#8220;cool bands that get fucked by the record industry&#8221; this is now a tangible story that can inform everyone else to not get stars in their eyes and waste money on trying to cater to MTV&#8217;s bullshit. Television is a dying beast- let&#8217;s use a nail gun on that coffin!</p>
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		<title>By: STREET BONERS and TV CARNAGE &#187; NEWMORE SWITCHBLADES VS. MTV</title>
		<link>http://www.thetripwire.com/blog/2009/03/31/out-of-touch-a-true-story-of-how-mtv-treats-independent-bands/comment-page-1/#comment-2630</link>
		<dc:creator>STREET BONERS and TV CARNAGE &#187; NEWMORE SWITCHBLADES VS. MTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the next gal and I fucking LOVE Team Robespierre but I&#8217;m surprised they&#8217;re so surprised they got fucked over by the world&#8217;s largest broadcaster. The band lost $1,000 to the Viacom bureaucracy? What did [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the next gal and I fucking LOVE Team Robespierre but I&#8217;m surprised they&#8217;re so surprised they got fucked over by the world&#8217;s largest broadcaster. The band lost $1,000 to the Viacom bureaucracy? What did [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous...Thats what a label is for- to be the middleman for logistic shit like submitting videos and making sure stations (TV, Radio) have their edits in time...Get a manager or a label and stick to music you whiner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous&#8230;Thats what a label is for- to be the middleman for logistic shit like submitting videos and making sure stations (TV, Radio) have their edits in time&#8230;Get a manager or a label and stick to music you whiner.</p>
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		<title>By: bottlethrottle</title>
		<link>http://www.thetripwire.com/blog/2009/03/31/out-of-touch-a-true-story-of-how-mtv-treats-independent-bands/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>bottlethrottle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kristen, did you even read the article? read it again because obviously you don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kristen, did you even read the article? read it again because obviously you don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Fucking Roizman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Fucking Roizman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Matt Cohen... don&#039;t be such a nutless twat.

poice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Matt Cohen&#8230; don&#8217;t be such a nutless twat.</p>
<p>poice.</p>
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		<title>By: kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.thetripwire.com/blog/2009/03/31/out-of-touch-a-true-story-of-how-mtv-treats-independent-bands/comment-page-1/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator>kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, why did it cost $600 to edit your video?  

also, if i was about to spend 600 bones, i think i&#039;d have the &quot;what if it doesn&#039;t air?&quot; discussion with bandmates, cos, come on, it&#039;s not like you had a contract.

also - less time blogging complaints about mtv being &quot;out of touch&quot; and more time perfecting your craft.  and i mean that in the nicest way possible, constructive criticism, yo.  

xo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, why did it cost $600 to edit your video?  </p>
<p>also, if i was about to spend 600 bones, i think i&#8217;d have the &#8220;what if it doesn&#8217;t air?&#8221; discussion with bandmates, cos, come on, it&#8217;s not like you had a contract.</p>
<p>also &#8211; less time blogging complaints about mtv being &#8220;out of touch&#8221; and more time perfecting your craft.  and i mean that in the nicest way possible, constructive criticism, yo.  </p>
<p>xo.</p>
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		<title>By: bottlethrottle</title>
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		<dc:creator>bottlethrottle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t the point not that they spent $600, but that they spent it only to never have the video air? wow, real genius, genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t the point not that they spent $600, but that they spent it only to never have the video air? wow, real genius, genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with other comments.
This is business you&#039;re in.
If you can&#039;t cut it, then get out or come up with your own music channel or way to trump MTV. Don&#039;t whine about other people&#039;s agendas or policies.
 
You did get a response from MTV and it was timely, just because it wasn&#039;t what you hoped it would be doesn&#039;t make it their fault. Be a professional and live up to the fact that they wanted edits made and if $600 was too much of a cost to you, you shouldn&#039;t be trying to submit in the first place. P.S. The song is horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with other comments.<br />
This is business you&#8217;re in.<br />
If you can&#8217;t cut it, then get out or come up with your own music channel or way to trump MTV. Don&#8217;t whine about other people&#8217;s agendas or policies.</p>
<p>You did get a response from MTV and it was timely, just because it wasn&#8217;t what you hoped it would be doesn&#8217;t make it their fault. Be a professional and live up to the fact that they wanted edits made and if $600 was too much of a cost to you, you shouldn&#8217;t be trying to submit in the first place. P.S. The song is horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to get over the issue of captioning. You’re making TV content and we caption TV content. Somebody’s got to pay for it, and MTV used its power to make you do it. Yes, deaf people provably do watch music videos. I should know; I’m one of the three people who got the whole idea of captioned music videos up and running circa 1989.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to get over the issue of captioning. You’re making TV content and we caption TV content. Somebody’s got to pay for it, and MTV used its power to make you do it. Yes, deaf people provably do watch music videos. I should know; I’m one of the three people who got the whole idea of captioned music videos up and running circa 1989.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of the postings already. Who needs MTV anymore? I think, arguably, getting your video on Pitchfork was a much bigger step than MTV, in terms of people your video will be reaching. I can&#039;t remember the last time I watched MTV... I don&#039;t even think about it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of the postings already. Who needs MTV anymore? I think, arguably, getting your video on Pitchfork was a much bigger step than MTV, in terms of people your video will be reaching. I can&#8217;t remember the last time I watched MTV&#8230; I don&#8217;t even think about it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: OPP - 4/1 (Joanna Newsom, Metric, more) : EAR FARM :: music information helps grow ears</title>
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		<dc:creator>OPP - 4/1 (Joanna Newsom, Metric, more) : EAR FARM :: music information helps grow ears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out &#8220;Out of Touch&#8221;, a fascinating story on Tripwire about MTV, Team Robespierre, and independent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ghostfriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see that you guys are winning that silly little video contest anyway.  You got got, but who really needs MTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see that you guys are winning that silly little video contest anyway.  You got got, but who really needs MTV.</p>
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		<title>By: centre</title>
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		<dc:creator>centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this the same MTV that i know of as MTV.. located at 1515 broadway in times sq.
if so. what did these guys really expect? seriously? hopefully the &quot;out of touch&quot; part has to do with the band. cause. it&#039;s MTV.. not newyorknoise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this the same MTV that i know of as MTV.. located at 1515 broadway in times sq.<br />
if so. what did these guys really expect? seriously? hopefully the &#8220;out of touch&#8221; part has to do with the band. cause. it&#8217;s MTV.. not newyorknoise.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin Timberlake was wondering if he could Cry a River for you.  

Welcome to the real world. It sounds like MTV at least returned your calls and emails, I&#039;m surprised they did that.  I was in a band for six years and spent thousands of dollars on equipment and presses and merch and never got half as close as this.  Grow a pair and figure out a way of marketing your band without a pity party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin Timberlake was wondering if he could Cry a River for you.  </p>
<p>Welcome to the real world. It sounds like MTV at least returned your calls and emails, I&#8217;m surprised they did that.  I was in a band for six years and spent thousands of dollars on equipment and presses and merch and never got half as close as this.  Grow a pair and figure out a way of marketing your band without a pity party.</p>
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		<title>By: jenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it ironic for me to write &quot;team team robespierre?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it ironic for me to write &#8220;team team robespierre?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: INSULINFUNK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MTV2 Vs. An Indie Band</title>
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		<dc:creator>INSULINFUNK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MTV2 Vs. An Indie Band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one band wanting to get it&#8217;s video on MTV2&#8217;s Subterranean. That band, Team Robespierre. Click it for the [...]</description>
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